I have a Smooth Coat Collie/Lab mix, but I swear he is more collie than lab. Though his facial features (besides his ears) are much lab, the rest of his body is an exact replica of a collie. He has the small ears, the slender legs, the rough hair on the back legs, and has an area on the back of his shoulders where there is long hair (he is my profile picture actually). The one thing he does that is very lab like is give everyone his paw whether you want it or not. Everything else is very collie. He is smart as a whistle and is not stubborn. The first day at the vet I was waiting outside to be called in, and in the 5 minutes I was outside, I taught him to shake. And it took me about 10 minutes to teach him to roll over. He is a shedder, very much a shedder, but its a lot easier to bathe him. I used to groom show Collies (Rough), and just grooming them dry was a task. Its funny to watch him swim though. His front body is in the water, but his backend is on the patio. He is a very breed confused dog in the pool area. He rarely barks, if it is, its to strangers at the front door, and when I splash water in his face (he loves to eat it). He is a great dog, very athletic, very strong, very family oriented, and gets along well with our other 4 dogs. Possible Collie owners should teach their dog basic commands, as having an untrained collie will be frustrating. These dogs are great with kids, just dont make them run too fast, they might be herded into a small flock with a Collie behind their heels. And, they need a good amount of room to run around in. Great family dog!